======================================================================== 86 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6277; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:26:14 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:26:13 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (09068D) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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Austria.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.n et!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: host name@earthlink.net (Your real Name) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 1 Jul 1996 08:28:49 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 26 Message-ID: <4r8281$nvc@argentina.it.earthlink.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm NNTP-Posting-Host: pool028.max2.san-francisco.ca.dynip.alter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:131944 comp.os.msdos.misc:59039 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157437 alt.tasteless.jokes:115203 alt.flame:245993 alt.aol-sucks:76168 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24445 alt.startrek.creative:36802 alt.startrek.borg:1051 alt.startrek.trill:585 alt.startrek:7408 rec.arts.startrek.misc:82952 Isn't it kinda funny that you say the MMX is new. While all PPC chips are have RISC in them. Let's see how old are PPC chips, ahhh yes aabout 2-3 years old. So TELL ME SOMETHING NEW, ASSHOLE!!!!! I think it's sad that intel finally put something like MMX in there. I think it's kinda too late!!!! Mac's over PC's In article <31D5608B.1AD9@alliance.net>, Ssquire@alliance.net says... > >Think the Intel Chip is any better then why is it that most >> Pentium Chips aren't RISC like ALL POWERPC Chips. You say the macs are >> slow well that's kinda of obviuos seeing that the PPC 601 chip was >> designed to compete against 386 and 486 chips, which I might add blow away >> 486 chips(in my opinion). Think the PC is hot, then why the hell do many >> graphic artists, news publishers, movie people, special effects, etc. use >> a MAC. Yall just don't know. > > >Hey asshole, have you heard of MMX? MMX is Intels new MultiMedia Extentions due late this year. They will >make intel machines perform multimedia task up to a HUNDRED TIMES faster. ======================================================================== 103 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6283; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:26:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 16:26:17 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (0427B6) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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Austria.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in1.uu.n et!nntp.earthlink.net!usenet From: host name@earthlink.net (Your real Name) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 1 Jul 1996 08:30:13 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 43 Message-ID: <4r82al$nvc@argentina.it.earthlink.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm NNTP-Posting-Host: pool028.max2.san-francisco.ca.dynip.alter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.93.14 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:131945 comp.os.msdos.misc:59040 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157438 alt.tasteless.jokes:115204 alt.flame:245994 alt.aol-sucks:76169 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24446 alt.startrek.creative:36803 alt.startrek.borg:1052 alt.startrek.trill:586 alt.startrek:7409 rec.arts.startrek.misc:82953 I know I just like getting in to these types of debates. Mac's over PC's In article <31d4d986.4300001@news.ccia.com>, speed@ccia.com says... > >Sangi@fill.com wrote: > > >>a MAC. Yall just don't know. If a PC is so hot, then why does it take >>forever just to install WIN95, I know it's installing practically new >>software, but it doesn't take more than 30 minutes to install new software >>in a newly formatted drive. Then there's Plug and Play. Great for the macs >>but for PC's it's more like PLUG and PRAY. To use a PC you practically >>have to be a freaking computer genius to figure out what the hell is going >>on. Man there's just to much to say... That's all for now, I could just >>keep going and going. >> >> >> Mac Over PC's > > > > Hey, whatever floats your boat!! > > > PC's Forever! > > > > >Dave Garber (speed@ccia.com) >PC Multimedia and Entertainment Magazine >www.mortimer.com/users/pcme/pcme.htm > >Disclaimer: The opinions expressed above are mine, >and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of PCM&E. ======================================================================== 67 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7246; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:45:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:45:25 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (1245F5) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (48 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7244; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:45:23 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 01 Jul 96 18:45:22 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5072; Mon, 01 Jul 96 18:44:50 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1330; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 18:44:51 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu! cs.utexas.edu!bcm.tmc.edu!pendragon!news.msfc.nasa.gov!newsfeed.internetmci.co m!news.ptd.net!news.ptd.net!news From: Nate Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 01:14:06 -0500 Organization: n/a Lines: 4 Message-ID: <31D76CAE.38B6@cs7bbs.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. Reply-To: nate@cs7bbs.com NNTP-Posting-Host: cs1-06.iro.ptd.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:131959 comp.os.msdos.misc:59044 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157448 alt.tasteless.jokes:115217 alt.flame:246034 alt.aol-sucks:76174 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24450 alt.startrek.creative:36804 alt.startrek.borg:1053 alt.startrek.trill:587 alt.startrek:7411 rec.arts.startrek.misc:82964 Mac is not shit!!! I've had mine for about a year or two and I've never had to restart netscape because it locks up!!....so shut the fuck up because you don't know what your talking about!! and besides that macs are more user friendly! ======================================================================== 65 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7902; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:41:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:41:37 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (3790B2) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (46 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7900; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:41:36 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 01 Jul 96 20:41:26 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6305; Mon, 01 Jul 96 20:40:44 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3925; Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:40:44 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!udel!udel-eecis!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!malgudi.oar.net!rclnews.eng.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs .ohio-state.edu!postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu!lupo From: lupo@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ken Lupo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:49:20 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.146.91.34 X-Newsreader: Trumpet for Windows [Version 1.0 Rev B final beta #4] Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:131992 comp.os.msdos.misc:59055 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157466 alt.tasteless.jokes:115230 alt.flame:246060 alt.aol-sucks:76194 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24454 alt.startrek.creative:36808 alt.startrek.borg:1056 alt.startrek.trill:588 alt.startrek:7419 rec.arts.startrek.misc:82972 In article <31D76CAE.38B6@cs7bbs.com> Nate writes: >Mac is not shit!!! I've had mine for about a year or two and I've >never had to restart netscape because it locks up!!....so shut the >fuck up because you don't know what your talking about!! and besides >that macs are more user friendly! More user friendly so the mentally impaired, such as yourself, can use them to post to usenet. Bravo. ======================================================================== 74 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7658; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:29:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:29:02 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (30B4B1) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (55 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7656; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:29:01 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 03 Jul 96 03:28:59 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6983; Wed, 03 Jul 96 03:28:27 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7656; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:28:27 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:00:49 -0500 From: "Rick Brooks" Subject: Re: Politicall Correct Scatology in the Apple Industry (go ahead, read it anyway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.mpe References: <4r3f91$2ep@buffnet2.buffnet.net> Organization: Prevue Networks, Inc. Message-ID: <01bb6862.be9f1140$9fe899c6@rbrooks.prevuenet.com> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1085 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: rbrooks.prevuenet.com Lines: 26 Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!news.uvsg. com! There are other newsgroups that have adopted a "robomoderator"-- that do not allow any crossposted message (or any posted to more the 'n' groups) to be posted to the newsgroup. Another newsgroup I follow is proposing such robomoderation now. -- Rick Brooks Software Engineer Prevue Networks, Inc rbrooks@prevuenet.com http://www.prevue.com "Tag! You're It, Baggy Eyes!"--Bugs Bunny > tonyf@buffnet.net (Tony Furnivall) wrote in article <4r3f91$2ep@buffnet2.buffnet.net>... > I have been intrigued by the recent stream of postings which are > (somewhat tastelessly) captioned :MACINTOSH IS SHIT. I am, however, > intrigued that no-one has discovered the underlying reason for this > series of exchanges. > The new user interface for MPE will be either based on Windoze or the > MAC interface, and the powers that be are trying to figure out which > platform has the stronger supporters. > See - simple market research, that's all ;-) > > PS > Somebody asked "Haven't you heard about filters? Is there any way I can > filter what gets sent to/from a news server? I pick up 3000-L from the > news-group, and its a pain to delete all the extraneous, er, "stuff". > > ======================================================================== 107 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4057; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:44:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:44:32 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (3B379B) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (88 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4055; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:44:31 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 03 Jul 96 20:44:30 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9125; Wed, 03 Jul 96 20:43:53 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3249; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:43:15 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!newsserver.jvnc.net!news.merck.com!mrlnews From: jeff brown Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS S*** Date: 3 Jul 1996 15:07:52 GMT Organization: Merck Mfg. Division Lines: 63 Message-ID: <4re2c8$1khi@merck.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22 (Windows; I; 16bit) Don Harrington wrote: >On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, John Joerger wrote: > >> On Fri, 28 Jun 1996, Tom Madigan wrote: >> > After more than a week of reading this message subject, I feel that it's >> > time to say *sayonara* to HP3000-L. I really regret that what was >> > once a truly professional discussion group which dealt with real problems >> > within the HP-3000 user community has degenerated into this obscenity. >> >> I don't know Tom at all, but I find it very insulting that we have >> to loose a long-time participant because of postings that seem to >> be out of our communities control. I don't blame Tom. In fact, >> I am close to the same level of frustration. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Joerger Press-Telegram (Long Beach) >> jjoerger@netcom.com http://www.ptconnect.com >> >I have to agree with John. If you need a quorum (sp?) to make this >happen, add my vote. > >Don Harrington Boeing Commercial Airplane Group >(206) 931-4457 voice P. O. Box 3707 M/S 5J-34 >(206) 931-9085 FAX Seattle, WA 98124-2207 >har7018d@bcstec.ca.boeing.com > >These thoughts are owned by the person expressing them, and no one else! Ditto for me. -- jeff_brown@merck.com The contents of this message express only the sender's opinion. This message does not necessarily reflect the policy or views of my employer, Merck & Co., Inc. All responsibility for the statements made in this Usenet posting resides solely and completely with the sender. ======================================================================== 68 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4100; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:13 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (36A13A) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (49 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4098; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:11 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 03 Jul 96 20:51:10 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9208; Wed, 03 Jul 96 20:50:39 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3421; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:50:39 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news-in.tiac.net!news-old.tiac.net!usenet From: dfield@tiac.net (David Field) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 13:41:48 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company Lines: 11 Message-ID: <4rdt4h$b47@news-old.tiac.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm NNTP-Posting-Host: dfield.tiac.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132371 comp.os.msdos.misc:59204 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157742 alt.tasteless.jokes:115445 alt.flame:246605 alt.aol-sucks:76700 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24527 alt.startrek.creative:36880 alt.startrek.borg:1095 alt.startrek.trill:607 alt.startrek:7490 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83243 host name@earthlink.net (Your real Name) wrote: >Isn't it kinda funny that you say the MMX is new. While all PPC chips are >have RISC in them. Let's see how old are PPC chips, ahhh yes aabout 2-3 >years old. Not really. They're based on the IBM 6000 RISC chips which go back to the late eighties. David. ======================================================================== 101 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4106; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:15 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (07E5EE) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (82 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4104; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:51:14 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 03 Jul 96 20:51:13 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9210; Wed, 03 Jul 96 20:50:40 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3425; Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:50:41 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com!nntp.primenet.com! news.primenet.com!english From: Lawson English Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 3 Jul 1996 08:21:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Lines: 48 Message-ID: <4re34t$4g6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4 X-Posted-By: english@usr2.primenet.com Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132385 comp.os.msdos.misc:59207 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157751 alt.tasteless.jokes:115447 alt.flame:246606 alt.aol-sucks:76701 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24528 alt.startrek.creative:36881 alt.startrek.borg:1096 alt.startrek.trill:608 alt.startrek:7491 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83244 David Field wrote: : host name@earthlink.net (Your real Name) wrote: : >Isn't it kinda funny that you say the MMX is new. While all PPC chips are : >have RISC in them. Let's see how old are PPC chips, ahhh yes aabout 2-3 : >years old. : Not really. They're based on the IBM 6000 RISC chips which go back to : the late eighties. Mmmm, yes, but.... The POWER architecture and the PowerPC architecture are somewhat different. The 601 is 100% backwards compatible (I think) with POWER because IBM needed a transition CPU to allow them to use POWER binaries without rewrites during the first year or so. In fact, the 601 was designed almost completely by IBM, save for some bus designs that Motorola contributed. The 603 and 604 and other "true" PowerPC CPU's are NOT compatible with the POWER architecture. There are lots of missing instructions, and a few new ones also. If you try to run a POWER binary on a 603 or 604, either it won't run, or it will run slowly since the POWER-only instructions are being emulated by the OS. This was one reason why some high-end graphics applications were running slower on a 604 than a 601 when the 604's were first released -the apps had been written using IBM's xlc compiler for RS/6000 workstations, and the programmers hadn't realized that there was a compiler option to use PowerPC-only instructions (or they were aware of the problem, but wanted the highest possible speed immediately, rather than going for compatibility with slower speed). As far as MMX goes, I'm told that the ISA is pretty darned good. But it isn't all that new. Quite a few RISC processors have had MMX-like extensions for several years, including variations of both Motorola and Intel RISC processors. Whether PowerPC will ever have such extensions is still up in the air, although I suspect that they will. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lawson English Toolbars are evidence that english@primenet.com Windows really is a cargo cult... -Kevin Killion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== 103 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5137; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:25:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:25:10 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (30625C) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (84 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5135; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:25:09 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 04 Jul 96 01:25:08 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4099; Thu, 04 Jul 96 01:24:36 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3511; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 01:24:37 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com! news.texas.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-6.sprintlink.net!news.nkn.net!dalpo rt131.nkn.net!user From: rkirkmcp@nkn.net (Dallas Guy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 11:55:28 -0500 Organization: n/a Lines: 48 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> , idiot69@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Ian wrote: > > > > ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT WINDOWS 95 ISN'T A COPY OF THE MAC HAS SERIOUS > > PROBLEMS. WIN HAS A RECYCLE BIN, MAC HAS A TRASH CAN. WIN HAS THERE > > ICONS ON THE LEFT SIDE, MAC HAS THERE ICONS ON THE RIGHT. APPLE DOES > > NEED TO GET IT'S ACT TOGEATHER HOWEVER. I USE MACS AND PC'S AND I THINK > > THAT BOTH HAVE THERE WEAKNESSES BUT ANYONE CAN SEE THAT BILL GATES IS > > JUST TRYING TO COPY THE MAC OS. > > > > Ian > > eian@pond.net > > http://www.xensei.com/users/kwire/ > bla... > I think u are right in a way... > BUT, Windows 95 IS much better because of 2 reasons.IT IS CHEAPER THAN > THE MAC OS and software for it IS CHEAPER. and so...I conclude MA*s > suck. Windows 95 is cheaper than the Mac OS? Funny, at CompUSA, both Win 95 and Mac OS 7.5 sell for $89. And software prices for both platforms are nearly 100% of the time the same, with the exception of some Microsoft programs which are more expensive for the Mac OS, and some graphics programs which are more expensive for Windows. Plus, you can get high speed Power Macs from Power Computing at the same prices that you can get comparable PCs from major PC vendors (Compaq machines are even more expensive than PCC's machines!) In other words, price is not much of a deterrent in regards to the Mac OS. So your Windows "advantages" just don't exist. Kirk McPike ================================= alt.startrek.creative, alt.startrek.borg, alt.startrek.trill, alt.startrek, rec.arts.startrek.misc, alt.megabozo.yonderboy, alt.flame, alt.2600, alt.aol-sucks all trimmed from header due to total lack of relevancy. You diiots are clogging up the Internet by posting to so many stupid newsgroups--so don't you dare complain when something is slow downloading cause its your own damned fault! ================================= ======================================== It's not how powerful the computer is, its how powerful the computer makes you. Apple Computer. ======================================== ======================================================================== 71 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8343; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:33:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:33:10 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (2B73E1) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (52 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8341; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:33:09 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 04 Jul 96 18:33:06 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0421; Thu, 04 Jul 96 18:32:34 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6543; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:32:34 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!tank.news.pipex.net! pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!news .hooked.net!usenet From: njkahn@hooked.net (Mimi Kahn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.2600,a lt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.megabozo.yonderboy Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 01:49:54 GMT Organization: Megabyte Press Lines: 14 Message-ID: <31db22e7.95866168@news.hooked.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qqaqn$8r3@news.inforamp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: worm-21.ppp.hooked.net Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132513 comp.os.msdos.misc:59273 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157859 alt.aol-sucks:76750 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24558 On Wed, 26 Jun 1996 06:25:59 GMT, moonpeg@inforamp.net (Morgan Dhu) wrote: >Please limit your postings on this topic to computer-oriented >newsgroups. Thank you. I second the motion, and I'm going to go so far as to redirect the followups. Mimi http://www.hooked.net/~njkahn ======================================================================== 84 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8787; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:19:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:19:47 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (5D7030) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (65 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8785; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:19:46 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 04 Jul 96 21:19:44 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1302; Thu, 04 Jul 96 21:19:13 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8358; Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:19:13 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!udel-eecis!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!decwrl!news.hooked.net!use net From: njkahn@hooked.net (Mimi Kahn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.aol-su cks,comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: MACS/UNIX/WINDOWS/OS2 IS SHIT Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:33:13 GMT Organization: Megabyte Press Lines: 26 Message-ID: <31db4911.6802666@news.hooked.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm NNTP-Posting-Host: sole-34.ppp.hooked.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132547 comp.os.msdos.misc:59280 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157883 alt.aol-sucks:76756 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24560 On Thu, 27 Jun 1996 05:59:14 GMT, mchottle@ix.netcom.com (Tom and Diane Hottle) wrote: >You will notice that the irrelevant newgroups have been deleted. Your >"Macs is shit!" and it's idiotic clones are not welcome on some of the >newgroups you morons have been spamming. > >We have asked nicely. We have asked rudely. Now I'm fixing it so you >have somewhere else to post this adoloescent crap. > >Now, use the above the header and keep it the fuck off the Star Trek >and Tasteless Joke newsgroups. We're getting sick of this bullshit, >and we really DON'T CARE!!! > >QUIT WASTING OUR GODDAMNED BANDWITH! > I'll be a little more polite than the previous poster, but this doesn't belong in alt.aol-sucks, either. I'm adjusting the follow-ups to eliminate non-computer newsgroups. Mimi http://www.hooked.net/~njkahn ======================================================================== 74 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2723; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:44:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:44:00 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (6A35AB) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (55 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2721; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:43:58 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Jul 96 15:43:54 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9523; Fri, 05 Jul 96 15:43:20 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5883; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:43:21 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!newsgate.duke.edu! godot.cc.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!scramble.lm.com!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse. psu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!newshost.comco.com!newsfeed.concent ric.net!winternet.com!dimensional.com!news.wizard.com From: SgtTom@POBoxes.com (Sgt Tom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:38:42 +0100 Organization: Sergeant Tom's Mad World Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: pmbr2ip22.ici.net Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132572 comp.os.msdos.misc:59288 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157903 alt.tasteless.jokes:115623 alt.flame:246922 alt.aol-sucks:76762 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24564 alt.startrek.creative:36933 alt.startrek.borg:1109 alt.startrek.trill:636 alt.startrek:7517 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83367 In article , lupo.4@osu.edu (Ken Lupo) wrote: > >Although I am no Mac expert, I'm sure there are decent ones out there > >somewhere. Personally, I prefer my pentium. I've had my fill of macs in > >the computer labs...i really don't like having to reboot the damn thing > >every 10 minutes because Netscape locks up. I've never had to re-boot > >Win95. I'd rather use the 486 dx/33's in the lab than the macs. Well well, all you really need to do is allot more memory, that's right. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON A MAC??? Put the mouse on the Netscape Icon, go to file menu and give it as much memory as possible (depending on how much they have). Netscape crashes if you don't have enough memory open. ======================================================================== 85 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2729; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:44:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:44:10 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (0261FA) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (66 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2727; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:44:09 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Jul 96 15:44:03 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9525; Fri, 05 Jul 96 15:43:22 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5887; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:43:22 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!newsgate.duke.edu! godot.cc.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!scramble.lm.com!news.math.psu.edu!news.cse. psu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!newshost.comco.com!newsfeed.concent ric.net!winternet.com!dimensional.com!news.wizard.com From: SgtTom@POBoxes.com (Sgt Tom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe, Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 10:44:59 +0100 Organization: Sergeant Tom's Mad World Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <4qbt90$2a16@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qc7i NNTP-Posting-Host: pmbr2ip22.ici.net Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132573 comp.os.msdos.misc:59289 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157904 alt.tasteless.jokes:115624 alt.flame:246923 alt.aol-sucks:76763 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24565 In article , govind@uta.edu (Shekhar Govind) wrote: > >Why don't you offer a "friendly bet" (no wagering of course;^) > >that the Mac will be dead in say 2 years. Watch all the Macheads > >pick you up on that and match you $ for $. And of course, 2 months > >down the road (hey could even be next week!) you'd clean up! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!! Okay, first of all, this is the most fallacious thing I've read in weeks! In fact, the entire post made me laugh! You've got a sense of humor Shekhar, but a very BAD one at that. First of all, what makes YOU assume, in your ill judgment and POOR logic, that the Macintosh will be "dead" in 2 years?? What the hell makes YOU an expert? What do you base your claims on!? I WANT EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE! (That's FACTS to you lay people!) You can't just jump on your horse and say the Macintosh will be "dead" in two years and get away with it bud! I wanna see evidence, reports, data, claims that state this otherwise you've committed a grave fallacy since your premises don't agree with the conclusion of your above stated argument, therefore, making it fallacious (invalid). Thanks for the laugh though! You illogical folks are are so damn comical in your fallacious statements! ======================================================================== 82 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2790; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:53:44 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:53:44 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (3BE027) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (63 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2788; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:53:43 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Jul 96 15:53:41 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0077; Fri, 05 Jul 96 15:53:09 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7003; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:53:09 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.cse.psu.edu!uwm.edu! vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!cdc2.cdc.net!news.texas.net!nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com !dimensional.com!news.wizard.com From: ruxberg@ici.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:36:25 -0400 Organization: The Internet Connection Lines: 20 Message-ID: <31D0A229.292@ici.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: pmfr1ip28.ici.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132596 comp.os.msdos.misc:59299 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:157928 alt.tasteless.jokes:115651 alt.flame:247029 alt.aol-sucks:76774 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24568 alt.startrek.creative:36940 alt.startrek.borg:1111 alt.startrek.trill:638 alt.startrek:7524 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83389 Sgt Tom wrote: > > In article , > lupo.4@osu.edu (Ken Lupo) wrote: > > > >Although I am no Mac expert, I'm sure there are decent ones out there > > >somewhere. Personally, I prefer my pentium. I've had my fill of macs in > > >the computer labs...i really don't like having to reboot the damn thing > > >every 10 minutes because Netscape locks up. I've never had to re-boot > > >Win95. I'd rather use the 486 dx/33's in the lab than the macs. > > Well well, all you really need to do is allot more memory, that's right. > DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON A MAC??? Put the mouse on the Netscape Icon, > go to file menu and give it as much memory as possible (depending on how > much they have). Netscape crashes if you don't have enough memory open. For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can even turn the HD into ram..... ======================================================================== 78 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2878; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:06:09 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:06:09 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (21600D) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (59 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2876; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:06:08 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Jul 96 16:06:06 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0568; Fri, 05 Jul 96 16:05:34 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7990; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:05:34 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov! swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserv e.com!news From: Alex Craig <73203.1116@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.mpe,pa.jobs.offered,phl.jobs.offered,nj.jobs Subject: \\\\\\*** Programmer/Analysts (2) - HP3000 ***////// Date: 5 Jul 1996 13:28:56 GMT Organization: Technical Placement, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <4rj5ao$rqe$4@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.hp.apps:6269 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24571 phl.jobs.offered:9611 nj.jobs:11165 Permanent Employment Opportunity Announcement Programmer/Analysts (2) Requirements: 1. base of HP3000 experience to include: 2. COBOL & IMAGE. 3. aptitude for large company, hands-off type environment. 4. occasional, limited international travel. 5. sharp, energetic personality with good interpersonal skills. Comment: \\** Large, very progressive company willing to cross-train! **// \\** Opportunity to see international sites at company expense! **// Location: Suburban locale in souteastern PA offering the opportunity to pick from a broad range of lifestyles (i.e. suburban, urban or rural)! Even if you are not interested or qualified, please call ASAP with any referrals. This is an immediate and urgent need for a valued client and therefore, we are offering a $1000.00 finders fee to anyone who leads us to a candidate who is hired for this position. Contact: Mr. Alex Craig, General Manager TECHNICAL PLACEMENT, INC. 2274 Broomstick Road Green Lane, PA 18054 Voice: 215-679-4620 Fax: 215-679-5384 Email: 73203.1116@compuserve.com ======================================================================== 75 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2904; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:08:17 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:08:17 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (48FDE1) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (56 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2902; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:08:16 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Jul 96 16:08:14 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0700; Fri, 05 Jul 96 16:07:40 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8257; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 16:07:40 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!news1.noc.netcom.net!noc.netcom.net! usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.ed u!chi-news.cic.net!news.compuserve.com!news.production.compuserve.com!news From: Alex Craig <73203.1116@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.apps,comp.sys.hp.mpe,nj.jobs,pa.jobs.offered,phl.jobs.offered Subject: \\\\\*** Programer/Analysts (3) - HP3000 ***///// Date: 5 Jul 1996 13:35:52 GMT Organization: Technical Placement, Inc. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <4rj5no$rqe$6@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.hp.apps:6270 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24575 nj.jobs:11166 phl.jobs.offered:9613 Permanent Employment Opportunity Announcement Programmer/Analysts (3) Requirements: 1. 2+ years HP3000 experience to include: 2. COBOL, TURBO IMAGE & VIEW. Comment: \\** Offers opportunity to learn VISUAL BASIC, IMAGE SQL **// \\** with a large HP3000 (has 5, installing 4 more) user! **// Location: Aesthetically pleasing site in rural souteastern PA with good schools & low cost of living! Even if you are not interested or qualified, please call ASAP with any referrals. This is an immediate and urgent need for a valued client and therefore, we are offering a $1000.00 finders fee to anyone who leads us to a candidate who is hired for this position. Contact: Mr. Alex Craig, General Manager TECHNICAL PLACEMENT, INC. 2274 Broomstick Road Green Lane, PA 18054 Voice: 215-679-4620 Fax: 215-679-5384 Email: 73203.1116@compuserve.com ======================================================================== 64 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3804; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:06:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:06:45 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (4A5361) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (45 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3802; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:06:44 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Jul 96 19:06:34 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2696; Fri, 05 Jul 96 19:05:50 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2482; Fri, 5 Jul 1996 19:05:50 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! news.iif.hu!isyshu!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!plug.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.ne ws.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net !swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!waikato!midland.co.nz!tnzstfc From: tnzstfc@midland.co.nz Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.megabozo.yonderb oy Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Fri, 05 Jul 96 09:00:28 GMT Organization: The New Zealand Star Trek Fan Club Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4rilg8$k89@midland.co.nz> References: <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> <31D7D2D6.5673@pond.net> <31D92900.2856@ix.netom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tnzstfc.midland.co.nz X-Newsreader: News Xpress Version 1.0 Beta #4 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132706 comp.os.msdos.misc:59365 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158012 alt.tasteless.jokes:115720 alt.flame:247204 alt.aol-sucks:76795 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24577 You people have been politely asked not to crosspost this to alt.startrek.creative, yet the posts continue. Let this be your warning that should this thread continue, an official complaint will be issued to the posters server. Please stop this thread in alt.startrek.creative! Marty ======================================================================== 67 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5091; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:16:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:16:25 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (636C98) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (48 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5089; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:16:23 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 02:16:22 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6562; Sat, 06 Jul 96 02:15:50 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0422; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:15:50 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!interactive.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4 .sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.dx.net!news From: shannara Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Subject: RE: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 6 Jul 1996 02:09:16 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bb6adf.acfe0340$6961bec7@shannara.pnx.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4 <4re34t$4g6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: shannara@pnx.com NNTP-Posting-Host: s105.pnx.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132753 comp.os.msdos.misc:59385 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158047 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24595 On Friday, July 05, 1996, Tom Fletcher wrote... > macs are the best > your PCs are bottom-dwelling, scum-sucking, goat-blowing, trash. > > IDIOTS!!! ARE YOU SO STUPID YOU CAN'T EDIT A SEND LINE TO KEEP THIS IN THE PROPER GROUPS!!! WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THIS ASSININE SPAM RUINING OUR NEWSGROUPS!!!! ======================================================================== 61 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5520; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:15:55 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:15:54 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (0844E0) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (42 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5518; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:15:53 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 07:15:52 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7555; Sat, 06 Jul 96 07:15:20 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2427; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 07:15:20 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! news.iif.hu!isyshu!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!hole.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.ne ws.pipex.net!pipex!dish.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!j ussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!agat e!tmfmac6.ber From: fletcher@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Tom Fletcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 5 Jul 1996 21:25:49 GMT Organization: UCBerkeley ATDP Lines: 4 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4 <4re34t$4g6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tmfmac6.berkeley.edu Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132796 comp.os.msdos.misc:59399 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158080 alt.tasteless.jokes:115817 alt.flame:247343 alt.aol-sucks:76832 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24600 alt.startrek.creative:36995 alt.startrek.borg:1129 alt.startrek.trill:656 alt.startrek:7553 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83473 macs are the best your PCs are bottom-dwelling, scum-sucking, goat-blowing, trash. Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5091; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:16:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:16:25 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (636C98) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (48 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5089; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:16:23 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 02:16:22 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6562; Sat, 06 Jul 96 02:15:50 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0422; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 02:15:50 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! nntp.primenet.com!winternet.com!interactive.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-4 .sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.dx.net!news From: shannara Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Subject: RE: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 6 Jul 1996 02:09:16 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bb6adf.acfe0340$6961bec7@shannara.pnx.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4 <4re34t$4g6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: shannara@pnx.com NNTP-Posting-Host: s105.pnx.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132753 comp.os.msdos.misc:59385 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158047 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24595 On Friday, July 05, 1996, Tom Fletcher wrote... > macs are the best > your PCs are bottom-dwelling, scum-sucking, goat-blowing, trash. > > IDIOTS!!! ARE YOU SO STUPID YOU CAN'T EDIT A SEND LINE TO KEEP THIS IN THE PROPER GROUPS!!! WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THIS ASSININE SPAM RUINING OUR NEWSGROUPS!!!! ======================================================================== 96 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6149; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:50:36 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:50:36 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (076259) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (77 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6147; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:50:35 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 12:50:33 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9013; Sat, 06 Jul 96 12:50:00 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5387; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 12:50:01 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! Austria.EU.net!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!lamarck.sura.net!news.uky.edu!use net From: Raj Ganguli Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 15:04:11 -0400 Organization: University of Kentucky Computing Services Lines: 32 Message-ID: <31DC15AB.4653@ukcc.uky.edu> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: saratoga.ewl.uky.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/735) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132841 comp.os.msdos.misc:59416 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158122 alt.tasteless.jokes:115846 alt.flame:247435 alt.aol-sucks:76925 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24604 alt.startrek.creative:37020 alt.startrek.borg:1138 alt.startrek.trill:662 alt.startrek:7567 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83500 ruxberg@ici.net wrote: > > Sgt Tom wrote: > > > > In article , > > lupo.4@osu.edu (Ken Lupo) wrote: > > > > > >Although I am no Mac expert, I'm sure there are decent ones out there > > > >somewhere. Personally, I prefer my pentium. I've had my fill of macs in > > > >the computer labs...i really don't like having to reboot the damn thing > > > >every 10 minutes because Netscape locks up. I've never had to re-boot > > > >Win95. I'd rather use the 486 dx/33's in the lab than the macs. > > > > Well well, all you really need to do is allot more memory, that's right. > > DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON A MAC??? Put the mouse on the Netscape Icon, > > go to file menu and give it as much memory as possible (depending on how > > much they have). Netscape crashes if you don't have enough memory open. > > For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are > smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can > even turn the HD into ram..... So does Macintosh's. After all, what are windows ?? For years, Microsoft has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so amateurish) The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their market share. Raj http://www.engr.uky.edu/~rganguli/personal.html ======================================================================== 73 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6218; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:14:07 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:14:07 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (46684C) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (54 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6216; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:14:05 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 13:14:04 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9131; Sat, 06 Jul 96 13:13:31 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5638; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:13:32 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! news.iif.hu!isyshu!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!hole.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.ne ws.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!news.nl .innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!usenet.eel .ufl.edu!gate From: shannara Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Subject: RE: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 5 Jul 1996 23:59:33 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bb6acd.8df675c0$6961bec7@shannara.pnx.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm Reply-To: shannara@pnx.com NNTP-Posting-Host: s105.pnx.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132845 comp.os.msdos.misc:59421 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158125 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24605 On Friday, July 05, 1996, Brooks Stevens Design wrote... > Tony wrote: > > the only point in haveing a "Power" > > mac is to run PC software...cuz they are trying to be IBM. > > > ALL RIGHT YOU IDIOTS!!! YOU CLAIM TO BE COMPUTER KNOWLEDGEABLE BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN EDIT A SIMPLE "SEND" LINE IN YOUR POSTS! Stop ruining the unrelated newsgroups with this stupid spam! ======================================================================== 81 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6514; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:54 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (718BD0) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (62 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6512; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:53 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 14:50:51 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9744; Sat, 06 Jul 96 14:50:20 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6905; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:20 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news. sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.dx.net!news From: shannara Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Subject: RE: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 6 Jul 1996 13:35:35 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bb6b3f.8db23a00$6f61bec7@shannara.pnx.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> Chitty Bang! wrote: > > > > JUST TRYING TO COPY THE MAC OS. > > > > > > Ian > > > > Great conclusion. Look there's a bald guy. He must be a skinhead! Judging > Macs against one program, (however popular it is), is jackshit. I personally > feel that macs are worse, but then, I hate windows 95 too. Macs did have a > > Finally: I'm sorry for crossposting this to groups with little or no > interest, and feel free to flame me if it makes you feel better, cause i'm > not going to be listening. > DUMMY!!! ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO KEEP FROM CROSSPOSTING IS TO EDIT YOUR SEND LINE TO THE RELEVANT GROUPS. ARE YOU THAT COMPUTER ILLITERATE???? ======================================================================== 76 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6520; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:57 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (3B6BC0) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (57 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6518; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:56 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 14:50:54 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9745; Sat, 06 Jul 96 14:50:20 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6907; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:20 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-stk-200.sprintlink.net!news. sprintlink.net!news-pen-14.sprintlink.net!news.dx.net!news From: shannara Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.h p.mpe Subject: RE: STUPID MAC DEBATE SPAMMERS Date: 6 Jul 1996 13:40:31 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Lines: 25 Message-ID: <01bb6b40.3ec69020$6f61bec7@shannara.pnx.com> References: <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> <4rfmpe$gqq@Bayou.UH.EDU> <31DC4DCF.5304@netins.net> <4rkh5p$3kb@ns1.edm.net> Reply-To: shannara@pnx.com NNTP-Posting-Host: s111.pnx.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132865 comp.os.msdos.misc:59429 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158141 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24607 On Friday, July 05, 1996, Jaguar wrote... > Artemis wrote: > > >Industria Otavalena,,, wrote: > >> > >> Macintosh Rules!I disagree; I believe what you meant to say was, "Windows 95 Rules!" > >That would be the proper statement. > > > Windows 95 is a terrible OS. Only reason it is doing good is because > of that gay interface. I would (and do) Rather use Windows NT. I know > that NT 4 uses win 95 interface, but at least it still works. As far > as macs go, I have never used them much but from what I see in the > choice of software, I would rather stick with my PC. > > NOW LOOK HERE, YOU IDIOT, IT'S DAMN WELL TIME YOU A.H.'S STOPPED CROSSPOSTING TO UNRELATED NEWSGROUPS AND RUINING THEM WITH STUPID SPAM! ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS EDIT YOUR DAMN SEND LINE, OR "TO" LINE. > ======================================================================== 106 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6526; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:59 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:59 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (2201B1) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (87 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6524; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:58 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 14:50:56 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9747; Sat, 06 Jul 96 14:50:21 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6911; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:50:21 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! news.iif.hu!isyshu!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!hole.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.ne ws.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!j ussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!i n1.uu.net!new From: Tim Lange Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 22:46:20 -0700 Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Lines: 37 Message-ID: <31DDFDAC.4BFB@popserv.wolfenet.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: sea-ts4-p58.wolfenet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132866 comp.os.msdos.misc:59430 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158142 alt.tasteless.jokes:115860 alt.flame:247498 alt.aol-sucks:76932 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24608 alt.startrek.creative:37028 alt.startrek.borg:1142 alt.startrek.trill:666 alt.startrek:7572 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83511 Raj Ganguli wrote: > > ruxberg@ici.net wrote: > > > > Sgt Tom wrote: > > > > > > In article , > > > lupo.4@osu.edu (Ken Lupo) wrote: > > > > > > > >Although I am no Mac expert, I'm sure there are decent ones out there > > > > >somewhere. Personally, I prefer my pentium. I've had my fill of macs in > > > > >the computer labs...i really don't like having to reboot the damn thing > > > > >every 10 minutes because Netscape locks up. I've never had to re-boot > > > > >Win95. I'd rather use the 486 dx/33's in the lab than the macs. > > > > > > Well well, all you really need to do is allot more memory, that's right. > > > DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON A MAC??? Put the mouse on the Netscape Icon, > > > go to file menu and give it as much memory as possible (depending on how > > > much they have). Netscape crashes if you don't have enough memory open. > > > > For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are > > smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can > > even turn the HD into ram..... > > So does Macintosh's. After all, what are windows ?? For years, Microsoft > has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up > with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so > amateurish) > The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone > stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their > market share. > > Raj > http://www.engr.uky.edu/~rganguli/personal.htmlMACs AND Win95 blow, Both copied from the origonal UNIX X-Windows and then from UNIX Open Windows. UNIX is by far the most powerful and most cuntomizable OS. In fact it's what you are using to view this news group. ======================================================================== 74 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6532; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:51:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 14:51:01 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (7137D7) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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Reply-To: shannara@pnx.com NNTP-Posting-Host: s111.pnx.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132867 comp.os.msdos.misc:59431 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158143 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24609 On Saturday, July 06, 1996, Tim Lange wrote... > Raj Ganguli wrote: > > > > ruxberg@ici.net wrote: > > > > > > Sgt Tom wrote: > > > > > > > > > > DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON A MAC??? Put the mouse on the Netscape Icon, > > > ALL YOU REALLY NEED TO DO IS EDIT YOUR DAMN SEND LINE TO KEEP FROM CROSSPOSTING THIS IDIOTIC SPAM! ARE YOU THAT COMPUTER ILLITERATE? ======================================================================== 79 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7102; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:18:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:18:25 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (25E584) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (60 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7100; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:18:24 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 17:18:23 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0692; Sat, 06 Jul 96 17:17:50 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8877; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:17:50 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! swidir.switch.ch!in2p3.fr!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!news-r es.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp.earthl ink.net!usenet From: teemac@earthlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 13:08:41 GMT Organization: Earthlink Inc. Lines: 19 X-Sender: teemac@earthlink.net Message-ID: <31de630d.27360157@news.earthlink.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4 <4re34t$4g6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: teemac@earthlink.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pool014.max3.new-orleans.la.dynip.alter.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132902 comp.os.msdos.misc:59452 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158164 alt.tasteless.jokes:115896 alt.flame:247598 alt.aol-sucks:76947 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24611 alt.startrek.creative:37040 alt.startrek.borg:1146 alt.startrek.trill:670 alt.startrek:7581 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83526 On 5 Jul 1996 21:25:49 GMT, fletcher@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Tom Fletcher) wrote: >macs are the best >your PCs are bottom-dwelling, scum-sucking, goat-blowing, trash. > > Anonymous? Well your header says >From: fletcher@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Tom Fletcher) >Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT >Date: 5 Jul 1996 21:25:49 GMT >Organization: UCBerkeley ATDP >Message-ID: >NNTP-Posting-Host: tmfmac6.berkeley.edu > Lemme guess ehhh,ahhh you're fletcher@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Tom Fletcher) Are you SURE you got that Mac under control, computer expert boy??? ======================================================================== 115 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7786; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:42:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:42:45 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (5F7985) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (96 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7784; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:42:43 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 21:42:42 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2084; Sat, 06 Jul 96 21:42:09 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1710; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:42:09 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! news.iif.hu!isyshu!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!hole.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.ne ws.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!news.nl .innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci. com!in1.uu.ne From: gjohn000@ganet.net (The Recreant) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:21:55 GMT Organization: Global Access Network ISP (614)717-1700 Lines: 56 Message-ID: <4rmlig$h3h@s2.GANet.NET> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <4qbt90$2a16@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qc7i NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp3-172.ganet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132944 comp.os.msdos.misc:59473 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158204 alt.tasteless.jokes:115920 alt.flame:247709 alt.aol-sucks:76979 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24614 SgtTom@POBoxes.com (Sgt Tom) wrote: >In article , govind@uta.edu (Shekhar >Govind) wrote: >> >Why don't you offer a "friendly bet" (no wagering of course;^) >> >that the Mac will be dead in say 2 years. Watch all the Macheads >> >pick you up on that and match you $ for $. And of course, 2 months >> >down the road (hey could even be next week!) you'd clean up! >HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!! >Okay, first of all, this is the most fallacious thing I've read in weeks! >In fact, the entire post made me laugh! You've got a sense of humor >Shekhar, but a very BAD one at that. First of all, what makes YOU assume, in your ill judgement and POOR logic, that you are the perfect judge of humor?? What the hell makes YOU an expert? What do you base your claims on!? I WANT EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE,EVIDENCE! (That's FACTS to you MAC people!) >First of all, what makes YOU assume, in your ill judgment and POOR logic, >that the Macintosh will be "dead" in 2 years?? What the hell makes YOU an >expert? What do you base your claims on!? I WANT EVIDENCE, EVIDENCE, >EVIDENCE! (That's FACTS to you lay people!) Well, let's see, even though i'm not the original poster, i'll reply in his stead. I have, seen, used, and watched a MAC die before. Good enough? >You can't just jump on your horse and say the Macintosh will be "dead" in >two years and get away with it bud! I wanna see evidence, reports, data, >claims that state this otherwise you've committed a grave fallacy since >your premises don't agree with the conclusion of your above stated >argument, therefore, making it fallacious (invalid). Hmmm, are you from the government? In case you didn't notice, the bussiness world is not located on the internet (or at least it shouldn't be) studies are a waste of time and simple observation is enough to tell you mac is shit. BTW, go ram that thesaurus up your ass, you aren't impressing anyone by using "big words" and then telling us what they mean. >Thanks for the laugh though! You illogical folks are are so damn comical >in your fallacious statements! You really like that word... oh well, i guess getting stuck in a rut is just normal for a MAC user... i mean hey, look at sales for MACs... they keep falling and falling and falling, nice little rut. So get of your damn high horse and bow before the PC users. "Nevertheless, I think you should replace the words 'Crunchy Frog' with the legend 'Crunchy, Raw, Unboned, Real, Dead Frog' if you want to avoid prosecution!" gjohn000@ganet.net ======================================================================== 113 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7819; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:57:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:57:19 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (23F384) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (94 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7817; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:57:18 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 06 Jul 96 21:57:16 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2147; Sat, 06 Jul 96 21:56:44 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1843; Sat, 6 Jul 1996 21:56:44 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! news.iif.hu!isyshu!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!hole.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.ne ws.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!math.ohio-state. edu!uwm.edu!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetm ci.com!in2.uu From: gjohn000@ganet.net (The Recreant) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 00:25:32 GMT Organization: Global Access Network ISP (614)717-1700 Lines: 50 Message-ID: <4rmlp9$h3h@s2.GANet.NET> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp3-172.ganet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:132947 comp.os.msdos.misc:59475 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158205 alt.tasteless.jokes:115921 alt.flame:247710 alt.aol-sucks:76980 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24615 alt.startrek.creative:37050 alt.startrek.borg:1149 alt.startrek.trill:673 alt.startrek:7586 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83541 Raj Ganguli wrote: >ruxberg@ici.net wrote: >> >> Sgt Tom wrote: >> > >> > In article , >> > lupo.4@osu.edu (Ken Lupo) wrote: >> > >> > > >Although I am no Mac expert, I'm sure there are decent ones out there >> > > >somewhere. Personally, I prefer my pentium. I've had my fill of macs in >> > > >the computer labs...i really don't like having to reboot the damn thing >> > > >every 10 minutes because Netscape locks up. I've never had to re-boot >> > > >Win95. I'd rather use the 486 dx/33's in the lab than the macs. >> > >> > Well well, all you really need to do is allot more memory, that's right. >> > DO YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT ON A MAC??? Put the mouse on the Netscape Icon, >> > go to file menu and give it as much memory as possible (depending on how >> > much they have). Netscape crashes if you don't have enough memory open. >> >> For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are >> smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can >> even turn the HD into ram..... >So does Macintosh's. After all, what are windows ?? For years, Microsoft >has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up >with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so >amateurish) Well if a MAC does it automatically, then those directions would be useless... or are you lying to try to prove your point. I hardly think Microsoft has been trying to make perfect copies... because here... in the real word, we have "copyright infringement" say it with me boys and girls (that would be all you mac users too). And where do you get off saying the graphics suck. I've seen mac graphics and I'm not impressed with them. >The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone >stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their >market share. Oh i really doubt that will happen, there's that little problem with performance, and availability of software. "Nevertheless, I think you should replace the words 'Crunchy Frog' with the legend 'Crunchy, Raw, Unboned, Real, Dead Frog' if you want to avoid prosecution!" gjohn000@ganet.net ======================================================================== 73 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5744; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:18:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 16:18:39 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (3C143A) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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Lines: 17 Message-ID: <31e07cb9.2145214@news.interport.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <4qbt90$2a16@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qc7i NNTP-Posting-Host: regulus.port.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133114 comp.os.msdos.misc:59553 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158327 alt.tasteless.jokes:116155 alt.flame:248233 alt.aol-sucks:77094 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24628 >You really like that word... oh well, i guess getting stuck in a rut >is just normal for a MAC user... i mean hey, look at sales for MACs... >they keep falling and falling and falling, nice little rut. So get of >your damn high horse and bow before the PC users. Falling??! Helloo!!!! Someone's eating up the hype!! Mac sales are GROWING. Apple marketshare is SHRINKING. Let's at least get the facts straight. In fact, most companies would kill to be in Apple's position... $1 billion+ profit/month, regularly hover in top 3 companies for number of computers shipped, up to $1 billion in backlog orders (~six months ago). Are Macs keeping up w/ Windows machines? Nope. Windows marketshare is growing. But then, there are also more Toyotas on the street than Ferraris. --regulus ======================================================================== 116 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7734; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:06:20 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:06:19 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (7A991D) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (97 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7732; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:06:18 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 08 Jul 96 21:06:15 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3244; Mon, 08 Jul 96 21:05:41 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5918; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:05:41 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!rutgers!newsserver.jvnc.net! newsserver2.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!n ntp.earthlink.net!max4-gg-ca-32.earthlink.net!user From: cloister@earthlink.net (Matthew G. Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,,alt.2600, comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.startrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt. startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.megabozo.yonderboy Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 8 Jul 1996 05:37:21 GMT Organization: East Wing Publications Lines: 60 Message-ID: References: <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> <31D7D2D6.5673@pond.net> <31D9EB81.65E7@ptd.net> (Applied Engineering) Australia Model Actors Publications Gold Coast Australia Ever wonder how Film or commercial agencies find up acomming movie stars. how Mel Gibson got his break in his early days back in Australia. They look at the Actors/Models directory Publication, one such company A.W.S.E.M. Austraila Three months ago decided to transfer all their Australian Actors Modelling & Extra Portfolio Publications into the high-tech world of computers, so they can transfer this info between agencies around the world in minutes against days and sometimes weeks that the hard copy publication takes. When they first started this task they where informed that they would need a Pentium machine running Windows 95 to make them compatible with all the other agencies, three weeks later after entering all the data on their books they changed to Windows 3.1 as Windows 95 could not communicate with all the clients who used Windows 3.1. After 2 months of trial and error thay still could not get the system to communicate with all their clients (who used the same system) After many phone calls for help and many frustrated hours we became involved and gave them the use of a PPC 8100/100. 4 hours laters all data had been transfered to the Mac and the system was up and running, on trying our the connection software we had installed a 100% connection rate was achieved with no further problems. A cheque was written customer was happy, and that computer that isn't really taken serious in buisness saved the day. They have now been using the 8100 for the last 2 months in this time we have had two call backs, the first was the addition of a 2 gig Hard Drive, the second was for the addition of a second Mac Machine. Oh, what a feeling It's Apple ********** Amazing...how Windoze is sooooo much better than Mac OS and it can't even Communicate With Computers Running The Same System! This is genius, guys. Truuuuuuue genius. ;-) -- Matthew G. Mitchell | "You mean it just goes into the camera lens cloister@earthlink.net | and then just spills out into people's *houses*?!? Why didn't anyone have the goodness to explain this to me before?" [Peter O'Toole, "My Favorite Year"] ======================================================================== 93 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7777; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:08:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:08:53 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (068A38) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (74 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7775; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:08:52 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 08 Jul 96 21:08:51 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3297; Mon, 08 Jul 96 21:08:19 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6023; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:08:19 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!nntp.earthlin k.net!max4-gg-ca-32.earthlink.net!user From: cloister@earthlink.net (Matthew G. Mitchell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.2600,c omp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.startrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.s tartrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.megabozo.yonderboy Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 8 Jul 1996 05:43:00 GMT Organization: East Wing Publications Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> , kingrat@gte.net wrote: > > Judging from the low quality of the above post, I would also venture > to guess that Windows 95 users have a brain too. I was wondering if > the writer ever bothered to try and graduate from high school..... > > F*CK CRAPples!!!! > > Kestrel On that note: Excerpted from MacWay Digest 299 *********************************************** I used to work at the company that did all of the pre-press work on Microsoft's cartons. I thought that you might be interested in knowing that all of the cartons that Microsoft has printed are created on the Macintosh including the Windows 95 box. This could very well be old news to you or the public at large. But if not, I thought that you might be interested in knowing. ************************ Wow. Windoze 95 is such a great system that they had to use a "CRAPle" Macintosh to do their pre-press work, even on the W95 box. Just gives me a warm feeling all over. :-D -- Matthew G. Mitchell | "You mean it just goes into the camera lens cloister@earthlink.net | and then just spills out into people's *houses*?!? Why didn't anyone have the goodness to explain this to me before?" [Peter O'Toole, "My Favorite Year"] ======================================================================== 64 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7948; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:39:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:39:25 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (2729D8) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (45 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7946; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:39:24 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 08 Jul 96 21:39:23 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3590; Mon, 08 Jul 96 21:38:50 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6624; Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:38:50 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!netnews.nwnet.net!new s.domaintech.com!usenet From: "Patrick Stirrat" Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: Administrivia: rejected postings Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 23:53:47 -0700 Organization: Domain Technologies Lines: 22 Message-ID: <01bb6c9b.809500c0$4542c9cc@scooter.domaintech.com> References: <960705.172148.EDT.JEFF@UTCVM.UTC.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: host129.domaintech.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1085 Jeff, > Clearly I'm not too comfortable wielding the sword of censure, and I hope > to return to business as usual (open forum) in the near future. Apologies > for this waste of bandwidth, but felt it necessary after overstepping my > originally stated bounds; hopefully this ~3kb or so is preferable to the > 64kb reject file. I occasionally run through the HP groups and am usually able to get good advice and opinions from others. This is a valuable resource for those of us who are trying to get information that might not be available in other avenues. It bugs the crap out of me to see these recurring messages that have absolutely nothing to do in this newsgroup except waste our time (and bandwidth). Please do not feel uncomfortable about keeping out these obviously unrelated posts. As a rule, I'm 100% against censorship (e.g. the decency act); however, it seems that most of the posts regarding that Mac thread that were coming from other HP users were requests to have the thread and subsequent posts stopped, so we can all stop wasting time. Thanks. ======================================================================== 70 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3850; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:46:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:46:10 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (68B8A4) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (51 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3848; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:46:09 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 09 Jul 96 15:46:07 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5734; Tue, 09 Jul 96 15:45:26 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2198; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:45:27 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet. com!newshost.fiu.edu!usenet From: Ed Cao Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 02:58:27 -0400 Organization: Florida International University Lines: 8 Message-ID: <31E20313.B2A@fiu.edu> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: serss1.fiu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133273 comp.os.msdos.misc:59612 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158423 alt.tasteless.jokes:116303 alt.flame:248561 alt.aol-sucks:77149 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24652 alt.startrek.creative:37177 alt.startrek.borg:1174 alt.startrek.trill:691 alt.startrek:7769 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83674 ruxberg@ici.net wrote: > For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are > smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can > even turn the HD into ram..... exept for windows multitasking System 7.5 tend to be very stable. as for HD big deal most OS do that. ======================================================================== 87 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3856; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:46:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:46:13 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (469F24) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (68 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3854; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:46:12 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 09 Jul 96 15:46:10 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5735; Tue, 09 Jul 96 15:45:27 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2200; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 15:45:27 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet. com!newshost.fiu.edu!usenet From: Ed Cao Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 03:06:39 -0400 Organization: Florida International University Lines: 25 Message-ID: <31E204FF.5C03@fiu.edu> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: serss1.fiu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (Win95; I) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133274 comp.os.msdos.misc:59613 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158424 alt.tasteless.jokes:116304 alt.flame:248562 alt.aol-sucks:77150 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24653 alt.startrek.creative:37178 alt.startrek.borg:1175 alt.startrek.trill:692 alt.startrek:7770 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83675 Raj Ganguli wrote: > has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up > with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so > amateurish) Windows has its good parts also, but it is true that it is a copy of the System OS that Mac's run. Windows is a software Mac is a hardware System 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 are software. If you talk about windows you need to refrace. > The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone > stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their > market share. Very much dought it. Mac are still going to be around but as Windows gets better and more like System OS its goig to be harder for Apple. and from what I have seen in Mips power Motorola's chip is not a big deal, what is saving it is System 7.5 32 bit architecture. System 8 should also improve it. Maybe when you can build your own Mac will Apple get more of a foot hold. remember its thousand of companies aginst one manufature. And just for your info Microsoft is working on a version of Windows NT which will be 64 bit OS for the Alpha Chip with compatibility to handle 32 bit programs so I am told and read from PCN. Good luck Apple. ======================================================================== 73 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5686; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:56:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:56:32 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (1A114F) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (54 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5684; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:56:30 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 09 Jul 96 18:56:28 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9340; Tue, 09 Jul 96 18:55:05 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9834; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:55:05 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!new s.mel.connect.com.au!news.ade.connect.com.au!curlew.mtx.net.au!ppp39a.mtx.net.a u!user From: kdmason@mtx.net.au (Kim Mason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 00:02:34 +0930 Organization: Microtronics Information Systems Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp39a.mtx.net.au Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133394 comp.os.msdos.misc:59644 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158497 alt.tasteless.jokes:116342 alt.flame:248742 alt.aol-sucks:77190 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24659 alt.startrek.creative:37220 alt.startrek.borg:1182 alt.startrek.trill:695 alt.startrek:7793 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83716 In article <31E20313.B2A@fiu.edu>, Ed Cao wrote: > ruxberg@ici.net wrote: > > > For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are > > smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can > > even turn the HD into ram..... > > exept for windows multitasking System 7.5 tend to be very stable. > as for HD big deal most OS do that. Me get big internet. Talk to much people. Use good computer to reed thing. Basically, be articulate. Your post makes no sense. Kim :) ======================================================================== 87 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5614; Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:47:29 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 18:47:29 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (66E4E7) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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Austria.EU.net!EU.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.mathworks.com!news-res.gsl .net!news.gsl.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: blaknit@ix.netcom.com(Barbara D Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 9 Jul 1996 07:12:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 30 Message-ID: <4rt0o0$cg3@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <4qbt90$2a16@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qc7i NNTP-Posting-Host: lvx-nv16-14.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Jul 09 12:12:00 AM PDT 1996 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133392 comp.os.msdos.misc:59641 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158496 alt.tasteless.jokes:116340 alt.flame:248736 alt.aol-sucks:77189 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24658 In <31e07cb9.2145214@news.interport.net> regulus@interport.net (regulus) writes: > >>You really like that word... oh well, i guess getting stuck in a rut >>is just normal for a MAC user... i mean hey, look at sales for MACs... >>they keep falling and falling and falling, nice little rut. So get of >>your damn high horse and bow before the PC users. > >Falling??! Helloo!!!! > Someone's eating up the hype!! > > Mac sales are GROWING. Apple marketshare is SHRINKING. Let's at >least get the facts straight. In fact, most companies would kill to be >in Apple's position... $1 billion+ profit/month, regularly hover in >top 3 companies for number of computers shipped, up to $1 billion in >backlog orders (~six months ago). > Are Macs keeping up w/ Windows machines? Nope. Windows marketshare >is growing. But then, there are also more Toyotas on the street than >Ferraris. > --regulus I'd hate to be the one to tell you, but Macs are a failed product. There was a time when they ran IBM programs faster than IBMs and they HAD (past participle there) better graphics. Now, due to poor marketing, Macs are lucky to be compared to IBM and compatible machines. The IBM processors are a generation or two ahead, same quality hardware is equally priced, and most developers make Macs a second priority in platforms. I'm sorry, but given that, doesn't an IBM make more sense? ======================================================================== 111 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9666; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:24:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:24:35 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (2B1AFB) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (92 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9664; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:24:34 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:24:32 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2254; Wed, 10 Jul 96 07:23:58 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1668; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 07:23:59 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!02-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at! news.iif.hu!isyshu!weld.news.pipex.net!pipex!hole.news.pipex.net!pipex!tube.ne ws.pipex.net!pipex!lade.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.be.innet.net!INbe.net!news.nl .innet.net!INnl.net!hunter.premier.net!news-res.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!swrinde!cs sun.mathcs.em From: ab756@torfree.net (Graham Bullers) Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Message-ID: Organization: Toronto Free-Net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Tue, 9 Jul 1996 17:04:16 GMT Lines: 62 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133480 comp.os.msdos.misc:59667 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158558 alt.tasteless.jokes:116373 alt.flame:248809 alt.aol-sucks:77288 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24688 *****THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR ALT.2600 PLEASE TRIM YOUR HEADERS***** OPEN SEASON ON CROSSPOSTERS TO ALT.2600 The season opens on Monday the 8 of July to Monday 15 of July Feel free to Email,Bomb.and Cancel all crossposters to alt.2600. Take care use throw away accounts if you have them or be anonymous for really bad deeds,this is only for one week so make the most of it. Stephen Boursy has been asked many times not to crosspost but he continues to crosspost. For the last month every crosspost to alt.2600 I have sent back to the different newsgroups with a message on crossposting"For this week only you will see them in alt.2600". Let us clean up our newsgroup lets take it back. Happy hunting Graham-John Bullers Barbara D Harris (blaknit@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : In <31e07cb9.2145214@news.interport.net> regulus@interport.net : (regulus) writes: : > : >>You really like that word... oh well, i guess getting stuck in a rut : >>is just normal for a MAC user... i mean hey, look at sales for : MACs... : >>they keep falling and falling and falling, nice little rut. So get : of : >>your damn high horse and bow before the PC users. : > : >Falling??! Helloo!!!! : > Someone's eating up the hype!! : > : > Mac sales are GROWING. Apple marketshare is SHRINKING. Let's at : >least get the facts straight. In fact, most companies would kill to be : >in Apple's position... $1 billion+ profit/month, regularly hover in : >top 3 companies for number of computers shipped, up to $1 billion in : >backlog orders (~six months ago). : > Are Macs keeping up w/ Windows machines? Nope. Windows marketshare : >is growing. But then, there are also more Toyotas on the street than : >Ferraris. : > --regulus : I'd hate to be the one to tell you, but Macs are a failed product. : There was a time when they ran IBM programs faster than IBMs and they : HAD (past participle there) better graphics. Now, due to poor : marketing, Macs are lucky to be compared to IBM and compatible : machines. The IBM processors are a generation or two ahead, same : quality hardware is equally priced, and most developers make Macs a : second priority in platforms. I'm sorry, but given that, doesn't an IBM : make more sense? -- -=-GRAHAM-JOHN BULLERS=-=AB756@FREENET.TORONTO.ON.CA=-=ALT.2600.MODERATED-= Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.The courage to change the things I can.And the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=I had to kill because they pissed me off=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ======================================================================== 94 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6101; Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:23:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 20:23:35 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (6E4792) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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Lines: 34 Message-ID: <4rv96o$2kt8@news.gate.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: tcnetlink.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133561 comp.os.msdos.misc:59702 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158620 alt.tasteless.jokes:116389 alt.flame:248891 alt.aol-sucks:77301 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24706 alt.startrek.creative:37240 alt.startrek.borg:1191 alt.startrek.trill:700 alt.startrek:7813 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83783 Raj Ganguli wrote: >So does Macintosh's. After all, what are windows ?? For years, Microsoft >has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up >with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so >amateurish) >The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone >stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their >market share. >Raj >http://www.engr.uky.edu/~rganguli/personal.html What utter bullshit....Jobs stole the GUI idea from the folks at Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center. Then hired MicroSoft to code most of the damned thing for him. Copy my ass...The Gates crew WROTE your fucking OS. Try learning a few facts before you make an even bigger ass out of yourself. Bona na Croin Bill McVey Rapier@TcNetlink.com Disclaimer: The above opinions are mine alone and since I'm an Arrogant Bastard if I happen to offend anyone that's just to damn bad ======================================================================== 88 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7594; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:33:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 01:33:43 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (0C5218) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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Carey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sun, 07 Jul 1996 16:19:34 GMT Organization: epix.net Lines: 29 Message-ID: <31dfe341.2252693@newsserver.epix.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibmn NNTP-Posting-Host: cnyn-74ppp102.epix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.201 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133612 comp.os.msdos.misc:59713 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158652 alt.tasteless.jokes:116410 alt.flame:248968 alt.aol-sucks:77308 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24720 alt.startrek.creative:37252 alt.startrek.borg:1194 alt.startrek.trill:702 alt.startrek:7825 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83800 On Thu, 04 Jul 1996 15:04:11 -0400, Raj Ganguli wrote: :ruxberg@ici.net wrote: :> :> Sgt Tom wrote: :> > :> > In article , :> > lupo.4@osu.edu (Ken Lupo) wrote: :> For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are :> smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can :> even turn the HD into ram..... : :So does Macintosh's. After all, what are windows ?? For years, Microsoft :has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up :with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so :amateurish) :The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone :stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their :market share. : :Raj :http://www.engr.uky.edu/~rganguli/personal.html Its a bit too late. I thought that the Mac was going to turn around, but recently Apple reported that its selling 40% less what it was a year ago. That's just about half for all of you who don't think very well. ======================================================================== 75 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3039; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:08:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:08:14 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (09DC0E) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (56 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3037; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:08:13 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:08:09 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8094; Thu, 11 Jul 96 17:07:33 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6202; Thu, 11 Jul 1996 17:07:34 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!hookup!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!u unet!in1.uu.net!world!indra.com!usenet From: tjv@indra.com (Tom Vilot) Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 X-Sender: usenet@indra.com (System Administrator) Organization: Indra's Net, Inc. Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm X-Nntp-Posting-Host: net.indra.com Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 15:27:34 GMT Lines: 16 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:133967 comp.os.msdos.misc:59938 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158918 alt.tasteless.jokes:116474 alt.flame:249128 alt.aol-sucks:77335 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24745 alt.startrek.creative:37303 alt.startrek.borg:1199 alt.startrek.trill:707 alt.startrek:7856 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83859 Bill McVey wrote: >Raj Ganguli wrote: >Then hired MicroSoft to code most >of the damned thing for him. Copy my ass...The Gates crew WROTE your >fucking OS. Try learning a few facts before you make an even bigger >ass out of yourself. What the *fuck* are you talking about? >:-\ +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Thomas J. Vilot, Boulder, Colorado | | Photographer, C++ programmer, Multimedia Developer... | | www.indra.com/~tjv/ | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== 91 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5845; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:06:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:06:01 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (5FAD3E) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (72 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5841; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:06:00 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:05:55 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4570; Fri, 12 Jul 96 00:05:12 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9660; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 00:05:10 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mindspring.com!news4.agis.net! agis!ns2.mainstreet.net!news.PBI.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.c om!news.ac.net!news.serv.net!nntp.teleport.com!usenet From: Akreig Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 12:26:38 -0700 Organization: Mine Lines: 29 Message-ID: <31E403ED.7AD5@teleport.com> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-salem2-21.teleport.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; U) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134025 comp.os.msdos.misc:59955 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:158950 alt.tasteless.jokes:116499 alt.flame:249246 alt.aol-sucks:77354 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24748 alt.startrek.creative:37316 alt.startrek.borg:1204 alt.startrek.trill:710 alt.startrek:7868 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83892 Bill McVey wrote: > > Raj Ganguli wrote: > > >So does Macintosh's. After all, what are windows ?? For years, Microsoft > >has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up > >with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so > >amateurish) > >The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone > >stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their > >market share. > > >Raj > >http://www.engr.uky.edu/~rganguli/personal.html > > What utter bullshit....Jobs stole the GUI idea from the folks at > Xerox's Palo Alto Research Center. Then hired MicroSoft to code most > of the damned thing for him. Copy my ass...The Gates crew WROTE your > fucking OS. Try learning a few facts before you make an even bigger > ass out of yourself. > > Bona na Croin > > Bill McVey > Rapier@TcNetlink.com > > Disclaimer: The above opinions are mine alone and since I'm an > Arrogant Bastard if I happen to offend anyone that's just to damn > badMac sucks as does AOL but AOL is beinng sued up one side and down another ======================================================================== 67 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9594; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:25:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:25:42 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (2BD93F) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (48 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9592; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:25:41 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:25:39 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2113; Fri, 12 Jul 96 13:25:03 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6365; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 13:25:03 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.aol-su cks,comp.sys.hp.mpe Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com!torn!watserv3.uwaterl oo.ca!undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!mhoye From: mhoye@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Hoye) Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT X-Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 14:56:54 GMT References: <31d9abf7.703791@news.gte.net> <4rfmpe$gqq@Bayou.UH.EDU> <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: descartes.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134164 comp.os.msdos.misc:59981 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159026 alt.aol-sucks:77375 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24766 In article <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net>, Alexander wrote: >Exactly! Macintosh is the best. If it was not for Apple, you PC >users would not have windows 95. And... We're supposed to feel good about Apple, after you've said that? Better yet, try this. "If it wasn't for Xerox PARC, you Apple users wouldn't have any kind of GUI at all. That's why I like to just write things out by hand and use a photocopier." Feh. -- Mike Hoye ======================================================================== 69 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0111; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:27:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:27:54 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (168FE2) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (50 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0105; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:27:51 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:27:06 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3027; Fri, 12 Jul 96 14:26:30 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8280; Fri, 12 Jul 1996 14:26:30 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.emf.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!nntp.teleport. com!ip-pdx14-07.teleport.com!user From: bcmetter@teleport.com (Bill Cameron) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 10 Jul 1996 23:31:19 GMT Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibm. NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-pdx14-07.teleport.com Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134177 comp.os.msdos.misc:59984 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159038 alt.tasteless.jokes:116534 alt.flame:249349 alt.aol-sucks:77377 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24770 alt.startrek.creative:37331 alt.startrek.borg:1209 alt.startrek.trill:715 alt.startrek:7893 rec.arts.startrek.misc:83941 A computer ain't religion, and it ain't your mom. Grow up, people. Stop calling each other names and use the computer that works best for you. And guess what, they're all made by companies that are more interested in taking your money than anything else. If that's worth your undying loyalty, I pity you. --Bill Cameron -- "A burning dog needs no chimney." --Tom Weller ======================================================================== 63 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3059; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:23:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:23:50 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (4B72D7) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (44 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3057; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:23:48 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 13 Jul 96 00:23:47 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1300; Sat, 13 Jul 96 00:23:12 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5685; Sat, 13 Jul 1996 00:23:12 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!udel-eecis!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!ratty.wol fe.net!usenet From: _________@___________.com (_______) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt. Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: 12 Jul 1996 04:58:22 GMT Organization: Wolfe Internet Access, L.L.C. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <4s4m1e$phu@ratty.wolfe.net> References: <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> <4rfmpe$gqq@B <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: yak-ts1-p22.wolfenet.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134262 comp.os.msdos.misc:60003 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159087 alt.tasteless.jokes:116576 alt.flame:249491 alt.aol-sucks:77398 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24798 In article <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net>, Alexander says: > >Exactly! Macintosh is the best. If it was not for Apple, you PC >users would not have windows 95. I am not worried about this computer >fight because once Copland comes out, Apple is going to beat PCs. > >Visit my Macintosh >Page. > Thats why we hate you! you have us Win95! you mother f___er ======================================================================== 99 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8074; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:50:38 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:50:37 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (3FC3C7) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (80 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8072; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:50:35 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 14 Jul 96 10:50:34 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3750; Sun, 14 Jul 96 10:50:00 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1448; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 10:50:00 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.mathworks.com! newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.sprintlink.net!new-news.sprintlink.net!NEWS!not- for-mail From: sketter@atc.ameritel.nat Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Message-ID: <7e7cc$33b.b@NEWS> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 08:13:11 GMT References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibmn X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Lines: 41 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134482 comp.os.msdos.misc:60071 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159190 alt.tasteless.jokes:116688 alt.flame:249972 alt.aol-sucks:77463 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24823 alt.startrek.creative:37420 alt.startrek.borg:1218 alt.startrek.trill:721 alt.startrek:7957 rec.arts.startrek.misc:84059 tcarey@epix.net (J. Carey) wrote: >On Thu, 04 Jul 1996 15:04:11 -0400, Raj Ganguli >wrote: >:ruxberg@ici.net wrote: >:> >:> Sgt Tom wrote: >:> > >:> > In article , >:> > lupo.4@osu.edu (Ken Lupo) wrote: >:> For all you silly MAC users... we Windows folks have computers that are >:> smart enough to know when they need more memory.... hey they can can >:> even turn the HD into ram..... >: >:So does Macintosh's. After all, what are windows ?? For years, Microsoft >:has been try to make the perfect COPY of a Macintosh, only to come up >:with cheesy Windows (the graphics suck, and the Windows look so >:amateurish) >:The only reason Mac's ont have the markets is cus of their anti-clone >:stance. Now that they have eliminated that, Mac should improve their >:market share. >: >:Raj >:http://www.engr.uky.edu/~rganguli/personal.html > Its a bit too late. I thought that the Mac was going to turn >around, but recently Apple reported that its selling 40% less what it >was a year ago. That's just about half for all of you who don't think >very well. They also posted a huge loss last quarter, which resulted in a mass layoff.... After all these years of Apple watching the PC market you think they would have caught on. Thier years of making $5000 computers that ended up NOT being supported for any lenght of time, that were obselete in a matter months and the money pored into the usless Newton under the poor leadership of Skully has killed Apple. It's a long and protracted death but I see no future for Apple. ======================================================================== 68 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9364; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:18:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:18:27 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (3075B7) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (49 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9362; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:18:26 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 14 Jul 96 17:18:25 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6301; Sun, 14 Jul 96 17:17:50 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6695; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 17:17:51 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!newsfeed.internetmci.com! chi-news.cic.net!newsfeeder.sdsu.edu!news.iag.net!rutgers!news.new-york.net!ne ws.cybernex.net!news From: darkman@bc.cybernex.net (darkman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.sta rtrek.borg,alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT (what is this doing here?) Date: 13 Jul 1996 23:59:34 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 7 Message-ID: <4s9d96$n2g@news.cybernex.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qmo1f$3cpi@news-s01.ny.us.ibmn NNTP-Posting-Host: nj189a-206.cybernex.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.6 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134516 comp.os.msdos.misc:60081 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159211 alt.tasteless.jokes:116727 alt.flame:250038 alt.aol-sucks:77483 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24826 alt.startrek.creative:37441 alt.startrek.borg:1220 alt.startrek.trill:723 alt.startrek:7965 rec.arts.startrek.misc:84082 Funny I thought this to be a startrek group. For those who hate the mac but like star trek. I got a major news flash. The graphics especially the displays for the Enterprise are done by a mac. Just in case you think I am a mac lover forget it I do own A pentium 133. ======================================================================== 82 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9854; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:11:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:11:33 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (30CA79) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (63 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9852; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:11:32 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 14 Jul 96 20:11:29 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7960; Sun, 14 Jul 96 20:10:47 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0040; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:10:48 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!usenet From: "Mike" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.flame, comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 01:47:05 -0400 Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 28 Message-ID: <01bb7149.71865180$7623ad80@mmakonne.vt.edu> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <4qbt90$2a16@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qc7i NNTP-Posting-Host: cs500-10.sl017.cns.vt.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1080 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134567 comp.os.msdos.misc:60093 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159224 alt.flame:250094 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24827 > rigby@prolog.net wrote in article <31E82B43.1F3A@prolog.net>... > What makes you PC users think that you know everything about Macs????? > I would like to know if you ever used one for more than a total of 10 > minutes. And what makes you MAC users think you know everything about PCs????? > Apple is NOT going to die. Even if it did, I'd keep my Mac > instead of buying a MAC-WANNABE PC that runs Windows 95. They should > just name Windows 95 "Windows 95 Mac Emulator" I saw somewhere in > this conversation that it is great how windows can run DOS 1.0 > programs. Why would anyone WANT to????? There are so many new > products out there. You are right there is no arguing that win95 owes a lot of its UI to MACs and a little to OS2; however, you forgot to mention that it takes some aspects further than the MACs (and certainly a lot further than OS2). Yes, MACs do some things better, but in the end Windows 95 is the overall winner. Still, however, I don't think the MAC is going to die anytime soon. MAC users, though few they may be, are extremely loyal, and that will keep Apple alive for quite some time. Mike. ======================================================================== 75 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9872; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:24:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:24:13 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (0BB18D) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (56 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9870; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:24:12 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 14 Jul 96 20:24:11 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8065; Sun, 14 Jul 96 20:23:33 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0286; Sun, 14 Jul 1996 20:23:33 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!usenet From: "Mike" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.flame, comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 02:03:26 -0400 Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 30 Message-ID: <01bb714a.2c11c020$7623ad80@mmakonne.vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs500-10.sl017.cns.vt.edu X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1080 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134568 comp.os.msdos.misc:60094 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159225 alt.flame:250095 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24829 > rigby@prolog.net wrote in article <31E82B43.1F3A@prolog.net>... > What makes you PC users think that you know everything about Macs????? > I would like to know if you ever used one for more than a total of 10 > minutes. And what makes you MAC users think you know everything about PCs????? > Apple is NOT going to die. Even if it did, I'd keep my Mac > instead of buying a MAC-WANNABE PC that runs Windows 95. They should > just name Windows 95 "Windows 95 Mac Emulator" I saw somewhere in > this conversation that it is great how windows can run DOS 1.0 > programs. Why would anyone WANT to????? There are so many new > products out there. You are right there is no arguing that win95 owes a lot of its UI to MACs and a little to OS2; however, you forgot to mention that it takes some aspects further than the MACs (and certainly a lot further than OS2). Yes, MACs do some things better, but in the end Windows 95 is the overall winner. Still, however, I don't think the MAC is going to die anytime soon. MAC users, though few they may be, are extremely loyal, and that will keep Apple alive for quite some time. Mike. ======================================================================== 67 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0961; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:28:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:28:48 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (570645) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (48 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0959; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:28:47 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 15 Jul 96 00:28:45 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1018; Mon, 15 Jul 96 00:28:11 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6338; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 00:28:11 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.jsums.edu!news.uoregon.edu! hunter.premier.net!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.ptd.net!ne ws From: rigby@prolog.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.tastel ess.jokes,alt.flame,alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 23:03:31 +0000 Organization: ProLog - PenTeleData, Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <31E82B43.1F3A@prolog.net> References: <4naso9$45g@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31A332F0.179F@terminal.cz> <4o1sj6$10a4@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <31c1f179.61336079@news.teleport.com> <31c22136.19192058@news.bham.mindspring.com> <4ptkna$qb0@crl.crl.com> <4q4hs2$1lnm@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4q9hkr$cjc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <4qbt90$2a16@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4qc7i NNTP-Posting-Host: cs3-8.pot.ptd.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134580 comp.os.msdos.misc:60102 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159231 alt.tasteless.jokes:116761 alt.flame:250213 alt.aol-sucks:77508 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24832 What makes you PC users think that you know everything about Macs????? I would like to know if you ever used one for more than a total of 10 minutes. Apple is NOT going to die. Even if it did, I'd keep my Mac instead of buying a MAC-WANNABE PC that runs Windows 95. They should just name Windows 95 "Windows 95 Mac Emulator" I saw somewhere in this conversation that it is great how windows can run DOS 1.0 programs. Why would anyone WANT to????? There are so many new products out there. ======================================================================== 43 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1071; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:03:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:03:22 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (2E7462) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (24 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1067; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:03:21 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 15 Jul 96 01:03:20 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1325; Mon, 15 Jul 96 01:02:45 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6960; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 01:02:45 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!news.kei.com!nntp.coast.net !netnews.worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: dmpater@ix.netcom.com(Don Paterwic) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.mpe Subject: test Date: 13 Jul 1996 16:02:15 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 2 Message-ID: <4s8ha7$k55@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: har-ct5-12.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Jul 13 11:02:15 AM CDT 1996 Please ignore, sorry. want to see if I can get here from there ======================================================================== 96 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2163; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:21:16 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:21:16 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (0CDBB1) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (77 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2161; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:21:15 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 15 Jul 96 08:21:14 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1213; Mon, 15 Jul 96 08:20:36 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8358; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 08:20:37 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais .net!news2.cais.com!twinturbo From: twinturbo@pacificnet.net (Cory M. Tobin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.flame, alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.startrek.borg, alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.megabo Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 11:21:20 -0800 Organization: None Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> <4rfmpe$gqq@Bayou.UH.EDU> <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net> <7e7cc$22f17.121@NEWS> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm5-5.pacificnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b13 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134629 comp.os.msdos.misc:60120 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159254 alt.flame:250276 alt.aol-sucks:77599 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24839 alt.startrek.creative:37564 alt.startrek.borg:1237 alt.startrek.trill:732 alt.startrek:7982 rec.arts.startrek.misc:84123 In article , dke@adnc.com (David Every) wrote: > In article <7e7cc$22f17.121@NEWS>, sketter@atc.ameritel.nat wrote: > > |Sorry to say but it doesn't look like Apple will make it out of the > |90s unless they somehow put somthing out that is great AND CHEAP! > > Oxymorons in many ways. > > |Next and Commadore had a nice products too, but if nobody buys it, > |it's all academic. > > Next never made it into the marketspace... Commodore was dieing since the > 70's. They never had anywhere near the presence as Apple, and never had > the marketing (which is saying alot). > > Commodore and Next are to Macs, what the 4004 is to the P6. > -- > David K. Every > MacKiDo Warrior - The Power of the Macintosh Way! > -- > )1996 DKE. Non-exclusive, royalty free license to distribute is granted to any service provider except Microsoft. By distributing this, Microsoft agrees to pay $1,000 per posting. bleh ---------------------------- Cory M. Tobin twinturbo@pacificnet.net __________________________________________________ \ 1989 Chrysler LeBaron Highline Convertible, Silver/Grey Leather, \ Black Vinyl Top, A413 3-Speed automatic, ~3.00:1 Front Gear Ratio, 2 1/4" \ piping from the manifold to a 3-Way High-Flow cat, and continuing to the \ Borla with it's trademark square tip, Alpine CDE-7821 head unit, with \ two (2) Polk Audio 5 1/4" EX-502's in front and two (2) 5 1/4" Boston \ Acoustics CX-5's in the rear, amps and more mods are soon to come... _________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== 126 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3371; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:08:51 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:08:51 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (4977E3) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (107 lines) ------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3369; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:08:50 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 15 Jul 96 11:08:45 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3520; Mon, 15 Jul 96 11:08:04 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3221; Mon, 15 Jul 1996 11:08:04 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!nntp.primenet.com!news.cais .net!news2.cais.com!twinturbo From: twinturbo@pacificnet.net (Cory M. Tobin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.flame, alt.2600,alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.startrek.borg, alt.startrek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.megabo Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 1996 15:14:24 -0800 Organization: None Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> <4rfmpe$gqq@Bayou.UH.EDU> <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net> <31E4F45C.917@earthlink.net> <31E5EC0F.7A01@nis.net> <4sbqhr$g85@news-old.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: pm2-24.pacificnet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b13 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134654 comp.os.msdos.misc:60126 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159266 alt.flame:250310 alt.aol-sucks:77606 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24841 alt.startrek.creative:37568 alt.startrek.borg:1238 alt.startrek.trill:734 alt.startrek:7988 rec.arts.startrek.misc:84135 In article <4sbqhr$g85@news-old.tiac.net>, dfield@tiac.net (David Field) wrote: > Anthony Iannone wrote: > > >Alexander wrote: > >> > > >> > Exactly! Macintosh is the best. If it was not for Apple, you PC > >> > users would not have windows 95. I am not worried about this computer > >> > fight because once Copland comes out, Apple is going to beat PCs. > > >Mark B. wrote: > >> And if it wasn't for Xerox, there wouldn't be a Mac. I find it slightly > >> hypocritical that Mac users point fingers at Gates and Co. when Steve > >> Jobs basically did the same to Xerox. > > >I write: > > >Frankly, there is one big dfference between apple's rippoff of xerox and microsoft ripping off apple. > > >Xerox would nevr use or debvelop its stuff, and never intended to. > > So, a company as market savvy as Xerox put all these people into Xerox > PARC, paid them, and then intended never to develop a single idea they > had and instead to let their competitors have these ideas free and for > nothing. > > >Apple vastly developed and improved apon > >Xerox's ideas and products. > > Apple improved upon Xerox work and also Doug Englebart's 1968 GUI. > However, when you look at what ideas there were around and what turned > out to be totally invented at Apple, the Mac GUI was not exactly > ground-breaking. > > What *was* the great triumph of Apple at that time is that they > actually put a GUI into a consumer computer. > > >MS, on the otehr hand, made a bad copy of apples GUI to DIRECTLY COMPETE and to > >later destroy apple. > > MS made a GUI with a number of original ideas. There would have been > more had Apple not sued MS in a case that was underway when Windows > 3.0 was under development. > > It can be argued that the NeXT GUI was far close to Apple than Windows > 3.0, and that OS/2 was certainly no further removed from the Apple > GUI. > > >Case made. > > Case rebuffed, by me, and FWIW, those lovable Supreme Court justices. > > David. bleh ---------------------------- Cory M. Tobin twinturbo@pacificnet.net __________________________________________________ \ 1989 Chrysler LeBaron Highline Convertible, Silver/Grey Leather, \ Black Vinyl Top, A413 3-Speed automatic, ~3.00:1 Front Gear Ratio, 2 1/4" \ piping from the manifold to a 3-Way High-Flow cat, and continuing to the \ Borla with it's trademark square tip, Alpine CDE-7821 head unit, with \ two (2) Polk Audio 5 1/4" EX-502's in front and two (2) 5 1/4" Boston \ Acoustics CX-5's in the rear, amps and more mods are soon to come... _________________________________________________________ ======================================================================== 136 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0179; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:06:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:06:49 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (35DCD4) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (117 lines) ------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0177; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:06:48 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 16 Jul 96 08:06:47 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8878; Tue, 16 Jul 96 08:06:12 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5151; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:06:12 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.flame, alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.startrek.borg,alt.start rek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.megabo Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!news2.inte rlog.com!news1.io.org!torfree!ab756 From: ab756@torfree.net (Graham Bullers) Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT Message-ID: Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.flame, alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe,alt.startrek.creative,alt.startrek.borg,alt.start rek.trill,alt.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.megabo Organization: Toronto Free-Net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] References: <31CA9F2C.990@earthlink.net> <4rfmpe$gqq@Bayou.UH.EDU> <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net> <31E4F45C.917@earthlink.net> <31E5EC0F.7A01@nis.net> <4sbqhr $g85@news-old.tiac.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:58:11 GMT Lines: 77 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134887 comp.os.msdos.misc:60202 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159391 alt.flame:250573 alt.aol-sucks:77653 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24872 alt.startrek.creative:37598 alt.startrek.borg:1247 alt.startrek.trill:742 alt.startrek:8029 rec.arts.startrek.misc:84226 Cory M. Tobin (twinturbo@pacificnet.net) wrote: : In article <4sbqhr$g85@news-old.tiac.net>, dfield@tiac.net (David Field) wrote: : > Anthony Iannone wrote: : > : > >Alexander wrote: : > >> > : > >> > Exactly! Macintosh is the best. If it was not for Apple, you PC : > >> > users would not have windows 95. I am not worried about this computer : > >> > fight because once Copland comes out, Apple is going to beat PCs. : > : > >Mark B. wrote: : > >> And if it wasn't for Xerox, there wouldn't be a Mac. I find it slightly : > >> hypocritical that Mac users point fingers at Gates and Co. when Steve : > >> Jobs basically did the same to Xerox. : > : > >I write: : > : > >Frankly, there is one big dfference between apple's rippoff of xerox : and microsoft ripping off apple. : > : > >Xerox would nevr use or debvelop its stuff, and never intended to. : > : > So, a company as market savvy as Xerox put all these people into Xerox : > PARC, paid them, and then intended never to develop a single idea they : > had and instead to let their competitors have these ideas free and for : > nothing. : > : > >Apple vastly developed and improved apon : > >Xerox's ideas and products. : > : > Apple improved upon Xerox work and also Doug Englebart's 1968 GUI. : > However, when you look at what ideas there were around and what turned : > out to be totally invented at Apple, the Mac GUI was not exactly : > ground-breaking. : > : > What *was* the great triumph of Apple at that time is that they : > actually put a GUI into a consumer computer. : > : > >MS, on the otehr hand, made a bad copy of apples GUI to DIRECTLY : COMPETE and to : > >later destroy apple. : > : > MS made a GUI with a number of original ideas. There would have been : > more had Apple not sued MS in a case that was underway when Windows : > 3.0 was under development. : > : > It can be argued that the NeXT GUI was far close to Apple than Windows : > 3.0, and that OS/2 was certainly no further removed from the Apple : > GUI. : > : > >Case made. : > : > Case rebuffed, by me, and FWIW, those lovable Supreme Court justices. : > : > David. : bleh : ---------------------------- : Cory M. Tobin : twinturbo@pacificnet.net : __________________________________________________ : \ 1989 Chrysler LeBaron Highline Convertible, Silver/Grey Leather, : \ Black Vinyl Top, A413 3-Speed automatic, ~3.00:1 Front Gear Ratio, 2 1/4" : \ piping from the manifold to a 3-Way High-Flow cat, and continuing to the : \ Borla with it's trademark square tip, Alpine CDE-7821 head unit, with : \ two (2) Polk Audio 5 1/4" EX-502's in front and two (2) 5 1/4" Boston : \ Acoustics CX-5's in the rear, amps and more mods are soon to come... : _________________________________________________________ ******THIS IS OFF TOPIC FOR ALT.2600 PLEASE TRIM YOUR NEWSGROUPS****** -- -=-GRAHAM-JOHN BULLERS=-=AB756@FREENET.TORONTO.ON.CA=-=ALT.2600.MODERATED-= Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.The courage to change the things I can.And the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=I had to kill because they pissed me off=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ======================================================================== 96 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0909; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:57:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:57:02 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (4D1F68) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (77 lines) -------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM (NJE origin SMTP@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0907; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:57:01 -0400 Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:56:56 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0111; Tue, 16 Jul 96 09:56:20 EDT Received: from AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (NJE origin NETNEWS@AUVM) by AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7852; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:56:20 -0400 To: HP3000-L@UTCVM.UTC.EDU Sender: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.flame, alt.aol-sucks,comp.sys.hp.mpe Path: auvm!paladin.american.edu!gatech!news.mathworks.com!zombie.ncsc.mil! newsgate.duke.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!newsflash.concordia.ca!ne ws.nstn.ca!news.dal.ca!torn!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!m hoye From: mhoye@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Hoye) Subject: Re: MACINTOSH IS SHIT X-Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:30:20 GMT References: <31E437AB.295@inforamp.net> <31E4F45C.917@earthlink.net> <31E5EC0F.7A01@nis.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: descartes.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Followup-To: misc.test, alt.peeves Lines: 45 Xref: paladin.american.edu comp.sys.mac.advocacy:134905 comp.os.msdos.misc:60203 comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy:159408 alt.flame:250589 alt.aol-sucks:77657 comp.sys.hp.mpe:24874 In article <31E5EC0F.7A01@nis.net>, Anthony Iannone wrote: >Alexander wrote: >> > >> > Exactly! Macintosh is the best. If it was not for Apple, you PC >> > users would not have windows 95. I am not worried about this computer >> > fight because once Copland comes out, Apple is going to beat PCs. > >Mark B. wrote: >> And if it wasn't for Xerox, there wouldn't be a Mac. I find it slightly >> hypocritical that Mac users point fingers at Gates and Co. when Steve >> Jobs basically did the same to Xerox. > >Frankly, there is one big dfference between apple's rippoff > of xerox and microsoft ripping off apple. Erm... No. They're using a GUI involving windows and a mouse. Someone had the idea prior to them. They're using it anyway. This isn't rocket science. Both companies have done the same thing. >Xerox would nevr use or debvelop its stuff, and never intended to. > Apple vastly developed and improved apon >Xerox's ideas and products. MS, on the otehr hand, made a bad > copy of apples GUI to DIRECTLY COMPETE and to >later destroy apple. You mean... someone is using an idea similar to a competitor's to try to gain market share? Someone notify Atari! Nintendo's been ripping off Pong all these years! Christ, you're a fuckwit. Do yourself a favor and take Economics 101 someday. Go over the bit about supply and demand carefully. When you're done, look up "intellectual property" and "free-market economy." This isn't rocket science. OS preferences aside, saying that Apple's appropriation of the PARC system is any different than Microsoft's creation of its own windowing GUI to compete with Apple is bullshit. -- Mike Hoye ======================================================================== 56 Return-Path: Received: from UTCVM.UTC.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UTCVM) by UTCVM.UTC.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1230; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:19:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:19:16 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at UTCVM (1.8b)" Subject: HP3000-L: approval required (0AC33C) To: Jeff Kell This message was originally submitted by NETNEWS@AMERICAN.EDU to the HP3000-L list at UTCVM.UTC.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. 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